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[212.85.158.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n59si22435182wel.141.2012.05.15.03.57.53; Tue, 15 May 2012 03:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org designates 212.85.158.146 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.85.158.146; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org designates 212.85.158.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org Received: by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix, from userid 486) id 4BA4F445E9; Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39707445DD for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mageia.org Received: from alamut.mageia.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (alamut.mageia.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id YXh4AUpt7H-t for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mo4.mail-out.ovh.net (16.mo4.mail-out.ovh.net [188.165.55.104]) by alamut.mageia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A28445D0 for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail247.ha.ovh.net (b7.ovh.net [213.186.33.57]) by mo4.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B26C81050CDD for ; Tue, 15 May 2012 12:59:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 15 May 2012 12:57:45 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO maximus.damsweb.net) (damien@damsweb.net@62.129.24.203) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 15 May 2012 12:57:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4FB236A7.2020804@damsweb.net> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:43 +0200 From: Damien Lallement User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120426 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: board-private@ml.mageia.org X-Ovh-Mailout: 178.32.228.4 (mo4.mail-out.ovh.net) References: <4FB21289.2060902@gmail.com> <20120515104337.GK21938@mars-attacks.org> <4FB234EA.6020508@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FB234EA.6020508@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 3938116400797129970 X-Ovh-Remote: 62.129.24.203 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeegjedrtdehucetufdoteggodetrfdofgetucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfhrhhomhepffgrmhhivghnucfnrghllhgvmhgvnhhtuceomhgrghgvihgrsegurghmshifvggsrdhnvghtqeenucffohhmrghinhepmhgrghgvihgrrdhorhhgnecujfgurhepkfffhfgfggfvufhfjggtgfesthekrgdttdefud X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.500001/N X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeegjedrtdehucetufdoteggodetrfdofgetucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfhrhhomhepffgrmhhivghnucfnrghllhgvmhgvnhhtuceomhgrghgvihgrsegurghmshifvggsrdhnvghtqeenucffohhmrghinhepmhgrghgvihgrrdhorhhgnecujfgurhepkfffhfgfggfvufhfjggtgfesthekrgdttdefud Subject: Re: [board-private] Another mail from Mandriva X-Loop: board-private@ml.mageia.org X-Sequence: 47 Errors-to: board-private-owner@ml.mageia.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: board-private-request@ml.mageia.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Le 15/05/2012 12:50, Oliver Burger a écrit : > Am 15.05.2012 12:43, schrieb nicolas vigier: >> On Tue, 15 May 2012, Anne Nicolas wrote: >> >>> >>> So we have to answer quite quickly and together. What I (personally) >>> think >>> about this: >>> - Mageia should not join that work group because we do have defined >>> our own >>> governance model and what is proposed here would change it >>> - Mageia is an independant project and must stay as it >>> - Having a clear position now will show we are ok to have mdv in >>> ecosystem >>> but it will not change our principles >>> >>> WDYT ? Mdv official announcement is planned for tomorrow >> >> It looks like something to bring Mageia community back to Mandriva. >> >> I also agree we should not join this : >> - it's not clear what this entity will be doing and why it is needed >> - the Mageia.org governance model is good, we don't need an other entity >> - it's free software so we can already share code with other >> distributions if needed, without joining a new entity >> - joining this would confuse people about independance of Mageia >> >> So I think we have nothing to gain by joining, and a lot we can lose. >> > One hundred percent d'accord. In fact, I entirely agree with Anne, Oliver, Nicolas and Romain. I know, easy... For me, this "work group" is a trap for us! So we should not join it. We must keep in mind what Mageia.Org is and why Mageia.Org is! And make Mandriva understand that our governance model is based on this history and protects us. We don't need Mandriva, it's Mandriva who need us. They must digest this fact! -- Damien Lallement twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin