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Subject: Re: [board-private] mandriva, foundation, business server
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18.05.2012 12:52, Romain d'Alverny skrev:
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> Hi everyone,
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>
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> so, Anne and me got in a conf call with JM Croset a few minutes ago to
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> get a status.
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>
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> He announced yesterday (Thursday, May 18)
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> http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/05/17/mandriva-linux-will-return-to-the-community/
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> . So several discussions are popping up here and there. Mageia's
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> position has been transferred to some people inside Mandriva, among
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> which Peroyvind (see
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> https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?p=18041#p18041 - although
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> he doesn't have the full story it seems).
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>
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That has never stopped POK to fill out the blanks...
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> He will announce early next Monday (22) that Mandriva SA will use
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> Mageia as a tech platform for its business server line, and contribute
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> back. Antoine Ginies (Mandriva engineer in chief for the business
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> server) will get in touch with us to see how we do this technically.
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>
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Shouldn't be a problem.
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> He worries that trolls and discussions may damage Mageia in the coming
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> days (for both news: Mandriva using Mageia as a tech platform for its
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> Business Server line; and Mageia not following Mandriva in its
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> foundation things) because he realizes that... community stuff
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> sometimes goes out of hand; but he reassured us that, whatever is
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> said, he does mean good for everyone; so it's important to play it
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> cool and neutral on our side too.
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Well, I still consider the so callen Mandriva foundation a "paper
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launch" so I dont see much problem with it...
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The "counter-weight" to Mageia not following Mdv foundation plans is
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that mdv actually trust current Mageia.org and its structure more
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than building on any current mdv based stuff so it means they think
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we already have a strong functioning org and so on...
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>
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> So, here's a suggested plan:
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>
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> * we announce/explicit both news on our side on Monday early morning
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> (CEST) as well, in a single blog post embedding all Mandriva-related
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> news:
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> - on one side, Mageia is not going to join Mandriva foundation
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> project (and why, cold reasons as we gave him),
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> - on the other side, Mandriva is going to use Mageia as tech
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> platform for its business server line (link) and contribute back.
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> - this double news should make it more obvious that things are not
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> so simple as "Mageia is dumping Mandriva" or "Mandriva is rebasing on
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> Mageia".
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>
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Yep.
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> * this news being published Monday morning, it leaves two full days
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> to propagate, before we push the Mageia 2 release news (Tuesday
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> evening) - interest about Mageia will have raised a bit in the
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> previous days, and this release news will hide partially the previous
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> news.
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>
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Yep. any news is good news :)
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> * until now, all this has been kept private in board-private: a)
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> knowledge and decision about the foundation, and b) business server
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> thing. Note that about a), people may question both the decision and
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> the fact that it was private, without consulting the Council. We will
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> mail privately Council members to inform them about both a) and b),
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> but still. We won't need further arguments than what we explained to
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> Mandriva, and what the governance says.
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Yep, we have that power to decide in cases like this.
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And yes, it's better Council members gets fact from us before stuff hits
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the blogs.
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> But still again. In the case
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> of things getting really ugly in the coming weeks, I'd suggest that we
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> call for a vote of confidence to make things very clear (from Council,
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> or from all registered contributors in LDAP).
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>
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If really needed / requested yes.
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But I dont think we will have problems.
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> Sorry to make this quick, but we need to approve/reject/amend on this
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> before tomorrow Saturday (even better, this evening) so we can discuss
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> this with Council members in private too before Monday morning.
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> .
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I'm ok with it
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--
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Thomas
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