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38 Subject: Re: [board-private] mandriva, foundation, business server
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54 18.05.2012 12:52, Romain d'Alverny skrev:
55 > Hi everyone,
56 >
57 > so, Anne and me got in a conf call with JM Croset a few minutes ago to
58 > get a status.
59 >
60 > He announced yesterday (Thursday, May 18)
61 > http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/05/17/mandriva-linux-will-return-to-the-community/
62 > . So several discussions are popping up here and there. Mageia's
63 > position has been transferred to some people inside Mandriva, among
64 > which Peroyvind (see
65 > https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?p=18041#p18041 - although
66 > he doesn't have the full story it seems).
67 >
68
69 That has never stopped POK to fill out the blanks...
70
71 > He will announce early next Monday (22) that Mandriva SA will use
72 > Mageia as a tech platform for its business server line, and contribute
73 > back. Antoine Ginies (Mandriva engineer in chief for the business
74 > server) will get in touch with us to see how we do this technically.
75 >
76
77 Shouldn't be a problem.
78
79 > He worries that trolls and discussions may damage Mageia in the coming
80 > days (for both news: Mandriva using Mageia as a tech platform for its
81 > Business Server line; and Mageia not following Mandriva in its
82 > foundation things) because he realizes that... community stuff
83 > sometimes goes out of hand; but he reassured us that, whatever is
84 > said, he does mean good for everyone; so it's important to play it
85 > cool and neutral on our side too.
86
87
88 Well, I still consider the so callen Mandriva foundation a "paper
89 launch" so I dont see much problem with it...
90
91 The "counter-weight" to Mageia not following Mdv foundation plans is
92 that mdv actually trust current Mageia.org and its structure more
93 than building on any current mdv based stuff so it means they think
94 we already have a strong functioning org and so on...
95
96
97 >
98 > So, here's a suggested plan:
99 >
100 > * we announce/explicit both news on our side on Monday early morning
101 > (CEST) as well, in a single blog post embedding all Mandriva-related
102 > news:
103 > - on one side, Mageia is not going to join Mandriva foundation
104 > project (and why, cold reasons as we gave him),
105 > - on the other side, Mandriva is going to use Mageia as tech
106 > platform for its business server line (link) and contribute back.
107 > - this double news should make it more obvious that things are not
108 > so simple as "Mageia is dumping Mandriva" or "Mandriva is rebasing on
109 > Mageia".
110 >
111
112 Yep.
113
114 > * this news being published Monday morning, it leaves two full days
115 > to propagate, before we push the Mageia 2 release news (Tuesday
116 > evening) - interest about Mageia will have raised a bit in the
117 > previous days, and this release news will hide partially the previous
118 > news.
119 >
120
121 Yep. any news is good news :)
122
123 > * until now, all this has been kept private in board-private: a)
124 > knowledge and decision about the foundation, and b) business server
125 > thing. Note that about a), people may question both the decision and
126 > the fact that it was private, without consulting the Council. We will
127 > mail privately Council members to inform them about both a) and b),
128 > but still. We won't need further arguments than what we explained to
129 > Mandriva, and what the governance says.
130
131 Yep, we have that power to decide in cases like this.
132 And yes, it's better Council members gets fact from us before stuff hits
133 the blogs.
134
135 > But still again. In the case
136 > of things getting really ugly in the coming weeks, I'd suggest that we
137 > call for a vote of confidence to make things very clear (from Council,
138 > or from all registered contributors in LDAP).
139 >
140
141 If really needed / requested yes.
142 But I dont think we will have problems.
143
144 > Sorry to make this quick, but we need to approve/reject/amend on this
145 > before tomorrow Saturday (even better, this evening) so we can discuss
146 > this with Council members in private too before Monday morning.
147 > .
148
149 I'm ok with it
150
151 --
152 Thomas

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