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From: "Romain d'Alverny" <rdalverny@gmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 16:09:25 +0200
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Message-ID: <CANa9xwt_9=B3kCuStXADVO46wyGrfDTitywoKgsspg-UPkGohw@mail.gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Following with Mandriva discussions
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FYI, here's a copy of the answer sent to JM Croset about not
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participating to Mandriva foundation workgroup.
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Translation first, original in French below.
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Dear Jean-Manuel,
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thank you very much for this information and this invitation.
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Without regret or disdain, after discussion with other board members,
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I can tell you that we are not interested in joining this workgroup.
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- Mageia would have been the ideal collaboration hub for such an
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entity, to join and grow, precisely to play such a role; but it did
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not happen, probably because our governance rules don't fit
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[Mandriva's] Supervisory Board; so be it. We will not walk another
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road, this very governance has been defined as it is for very specific
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reasons.
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- we spent a lot of time, energy, conversations, to define Mageia on
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several levels. And we went on producing stuff, and regularly put
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things back to work.
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- we don't have much information about trends behind the future
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entity, what are the goals of each of the potential participants. Ours
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are public and clear since day 1.
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- we don't have the means (neither the wish) to disperse further our
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(small) means on a new thing to define and build, we think our
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priorities are elsewhere at this point.
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- this won't prevent each of us to collaborate, since our tools and
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technos will be Free Software.
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Feel free to share the above reasons, they will be the same if we are
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asked why we chose not to participate.
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And we wish you good luck, and temper, for this endeavour.
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----
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Cher Jean-Manuel,
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merci beaucoup de votre invitation et de cette information.
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Sans regret ni d=E9dain, apr=E8s discussion et m=FBre r=E9flexion avec les
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membres du bureau, je peux vous informer que nous ne sommes pas
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int=E9ress=E9s =E0 participer =E0 ce groupe de travail.
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- Mageia nous aurait sembl=E9, a priori, id=E9al, comme hub de
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collaboration =E0 investir et grossir, pour remplir pr=E9cis=E9ment le r=F4=
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le
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d'une telle entit=E9 ; mais cela n'a pas eu lieu, probablement parce que
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le mode de gouvernance (point cl=E9 s'il en est) ne convient pas au
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Conseil de Surveillance ; dont acte. Nous ne nous engagerons pas sur
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une autre voie, cette gouvernance a =E9t=E9 d=E9finie pour des raisons tr=
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=E8s
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pr=E9cises.
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- nous avons investi beaucoup de temps, d'=E9nergie, de discussions, =E0
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d=E9finir Mageia, sur plusieurs plans. Et puis nous sommes pass=E9s =E0
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l'=E9tape de production, et remettons r=E9guli=E8rement les choses =E0 plat=
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.
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- nous n'avons pas beaucoup d'information sur les tendances qui se
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dessinent derri=E8re cette future entit=E9, quels sont les objectifs et
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les buts des uns et des autres. Les n=F4tres sont clairs et publics
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depuis le 1er jour.
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- nous n'avons donc pas les moyens (ni le souhait) de disperser
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davantage nos (encore faibles) moyens sur une nouvelle entit=E9 =E0
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d=E9finir et construire, car nous pensons que nos priorit=E9s sont
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ailleurs =E0 ce stade.
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- cela n'emp=EAchera pas, =E0 l'avenir, de collaborer sur le plan
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technique, puisque nos outils et technos respectives seront libres.
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Voil=E0. Sentez-vous libre de transmettre ces raisons, elles seront au
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c=9Cur de nos r=E9ponses si l'on nous pose la question de notre
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non-participation =E0 votre initiative.
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Et nous vous souhaitons bonne chance, et de l'=E9nergie, pour cette entrepr=
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ise.
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Bien cordialement,
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Romain d'Alverny
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