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42 From: "Romain d'Alverny" <rdalverny@gmail.com>
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45 Subject: Re: Following with Mandriva discussions
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50 FYI, here's a copy of the answer sent to JM Croset about not
51 participating to Mandriva foundation workgroup.
52
53 Translation first, original in French below.
54
55 Dear Jean-Manuel,
56
57 thank you very much for this information and this invitation.
58
59 Without regret or disdain, after discussion with other board members,
60 I can tell you that we are not interested in joining this workgroup.
61
62 - Mageia would have been the ideal collaboration hub for such an
63 entity, to join and grow, precisely to play such a role; but it did
64 not happen, probably because our governance rules don't fit
65 [Mandriva's] Supervisory Board; so be it. We will not walk another
66 road, this very governance has been defined as it is for very specific
67 reasons.
68
69 - we spent a lot of time, energy, conversations, to define Mageia on
70 several levels. And we went on producing stuff, and regularly put
71 things back to work.
72
73 - we don't have much information about trends behind the future
74 entity, what are the goals of each of the potential participants. Ours
75 are public and clear since day 1.
76
77 - we don't have the means (neither the wish) to disperse further our
78 (small) means on a new thing to define and build, we think our
79 priorities are elsewhere at this point.
80
81 - this won't prevent each of us to collaborate, since our tools and
82 technos will be Free Software.
83
84
85 Feel free to share the above reasons, they will be the same if we are
86 asked why we chose not to participate.
87
88 And we wish you good luck, and temper, for this endeavour.
89
90 ----
91
92 Cher Jean-Manuel,
93
94 merci beaucoup de votre invitation et de cette information.
95
96 Sans regret ni d=E9dain, apr=E8s discussion et m=FBre r=E9flexion avec les
97 membres du bureau, je peux vous informer que nous ne sommes pas
98 int=E9ress=E9s =E0 participer =E0 ce groupe de travail.
99
100 - Mageia nous aurait sembl=E9, a priori, id=E9al, comme hub de
101 collaboration =E0 investir et grossir, pour remplir pr=E9cis=E9ment le r=F4=
102 le
103 d'une telle entit=E9 ; mais cela n'a pas eu lieu, probablement parce que
104 le mode de gouvernance (point cl=E9 s'il en est) ne convient pas au
105 Conseil de Surveillance ; dont acte. Nous ne nous engagerons pas sur
106 une autre voie, cette gouvernance a =E9t=E9 d=E9finie pour des raisons tr=
107 =E8s
108 pr=E9cises.
109
110 - nous avons investi beaucoup de temps, d'=E9nergie, de discussions, =E0
111 d=E9finir Mageia, sur plusieurs plans. Et puis nous sommes pass=E9s =E0
112 l'=E9tape de production, et remettons r=E9guli=E8rement les choses =E0 plat=
113 .
114
115 - nous n'avons pas beaucoup d'information sur les tendances qui se
116 dessinent derri=E8re cette future entit=E9, quels sont les objectifs et
117 les buts des uns et des autres. Les n=F4tres sont clairs et publics
118 depuis le 1er jour.
119
120 - nous n'avons donc pas les moyens (ni le souhait) de disperser
121 davantage nos (encore faibles) moyens sur une nouvelle entit=E9 =E0
122 d=E9finir et construire, car nous pensons que nos priorit=E9s sont
123 ailleurs =E0 ce stade.
124
125 - cela n'emp=EAchera pas, =E0 l'avenir, de collaborer sur le plan
126 technique, puisque nos outils et technos respectives seront libres.
127
128 Voil=E0. Sentez-vous libre de transmettre ces raisons, elles seront au
129 c=9Cur de nos r=E9ponses si l'on nous pose la question de notre
130 non-participation =E0 votre initiative.
131
132 Et nous vous souhaitons bonne chance, et de l'=E9nergie, pour cette entrepr=
133 ise.
134
135 Bien cordialement,
136
137 Romain d'Alverny

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