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Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 20:27:40 +0200
From: Anne Nicolas <ennael1@gmail.com>
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Hi there

Here is a draft for council people (not using ML but mailing everybody). 
Comment? This should be sent tonight so that we have time to work on 
this properly

Cheers

--------------------

Hi everyone,

I'm mailing here the mail Romain sent to the board yesterday, following 
last discussions with Mandriva CEO, JM Croset.

=================

so, Anne and me got in a conf call with JM Croset a few minutes ago to 
get a status.

He announced yesterday (Thursday, May 18) 
http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/05/17/mandriva-linux-will-return-to-the-community/. 
So several discussions are popping up here and there. Mageia's
position has been transferred to some people inside Mandriva, among 
which Peroyvind (see 
https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?p=18041#p18041 - although he 
doesn't have the full story it seems).

He will announce early next Monday (22) that Mandriva SA will use Mageia 
as a tech platform for its business server line, and contribute back. 
Antoine Ginies (Mandriva engineer in chief for the business server) will 
get in touch with us to see how we do this technically.

He worries that trolls and discussions may damage Mageia in the coming 
days (for both news: Mandriva using Mageia as a tech platform for its 
Business Server line; and Mageia not following Mandriva in its 
foundation things) because he realizes that... community stuff sometimes 
goes out of hand; but he reassured us that, whatever is said, he does 
mean good for everyone; so it's important to play it cool and neutral on 
our side too.

So, here's a suggested plan:

  * we announce/explicit both news on our side on Monday early morning 
(CEST) as well, in a single blog post embedding all Mandriva-related news:
    - on one side, Mageia is not going to join Mandriva foundation 
project (and why, cold reasons as we gave him),
    - on the other side, Mandriva is going to use Mageia as tech 
platform for its business server line (link) and contribute back.
    - this double news should make it more obvious that things are not 
so simple as "Mageia is dumping Mandriva" or "Mandriva is rebasing on 
Mageia".

  * this news being published Monday morning, it leaves two full days to 
propagate, before we push the Mageia 2 release news (Tuesday evening) - 
interest about Mageia will have raised a bit in the previous days, and 
this release news will hide partially the previous news.

===================

It's good news for Mageia as it makes Mageia ecosystem grow up. It will 
make things clearer for Mageia community now as many things were told 
about Mandriva future and community. Mageia keeps its own governance and 
organization which are now working quite well.

So the next step is about communicating on these news. As said by Romain 
it has to be prepared and be ready very quickly as Mandriva announcement 
is planned for sunday evening. Mandriva CEO will send us the draft of 
its own announcement so that we can check we all agree on the content.

So now we have to work on the Mageia blog post which will be published 
on monday morning:
https://pad.riseup.net/p/mdv-foundation


-- 
Anne
http://mageia.org
1	Message-ID: <4FB7E61C.1030709@gmail.com>
2	Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 20:27:40 +0200
3	From: Anne Nicolas <ennael1@gmail.com>
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5	MIME-Version: 1.0
6	To: board-private@ml.mageia.org
7	Subject: Proposed mail for council people
8	Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
9	Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
10
11	Hi there
12
13	Here is a draft for council people (not using ML but mailing everybody).
14	Comment? This should be sent tonight so that we have time to work on
15	this properly
16
17	Cheers
18
19	--------------------
20
21	Hi everyone,
22
23	I'm mailing here the mail Romain sent to the board yesterday, following
24	last discussions with Mandriva CEO, JM Croset.
25
26	=================
27
28	so, Anne and me got in a conf call with JM Croset a few minutes ago to
29	get a status.
30
31	He announced yesterday (Thursday, May 18)
32	http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/05/17/mandriva-linux-will-return-to-the-community/.
33	So several discussions are popping up here and there. Mageia's
34	position has been transferred to some people inside Mandriva, among
35	which Peroyvind (see
36	https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?p=18041#p18041 - although he
37	doesn't have the full story it seems).
38
39	He will announce early next Monday (22) that Mandriva SA will use Mageia
40	as a tech platform for its business server line, and contribute back.
41	Antoine Ginies (Mandriva engineer in chief for the business server) will
42	get in touch with us to see how we do this technically.
43
44	He worries that trolls and discussions may damage Mageia in the coming
45	days (for both news: Mandriva using Mageia as a tech platform for its
46	Business Server line; and Mageia not following Mandriva in its
47	foundation things) because he realizes that... community stuff sometimes
48	goes out of hand; but he reassured us that, whatever is said, he does
49	mean good for everyone; so it's important to play it cool and neutral on
50	our side too.
51
52	So, here's a suggested plan:
53
54	* we announce/explicit both news on our side on Monday early morning
55	(CEST) as well, in a single blog post embedding all Mandriva-related news:
56	- on one side, Mageia is not going to join Mandriva foundation
57	project (and why, cold reasons as we gave him),
58	- on the other side, Mandriva is going to use Mageia as tech
59	platform for its business server line (link) and contribute back.
60	- this double news should make it more obvious that things are not
61	so simple as "Mageia is dumping Mandriva" or "Mandriva is rebasing on
62	Mageia".
63
64	* this news being published Monday morning, it leaves two full days to
65	propagate, before we push the Mageia 2 release news (Tuesday evening) -
66	interest about Mageia will have raised a bit in the previous days, and
67	this release news will hide partially the previous news.
68
69	===================
70
71	It's good news for Mageia as it makes Mageia ecosystem grow up. It will
72	make things clearer for Mageia community now as many things were told
73	about Mandriva future and community. Mageia keeps its own governance and
74	organization which are now working quite well.
75
76	So the next step is about communicating on these news. As said by Romain
77	it has to be prepared and be ready very quickly as Mandriva announcement
78	is planned for sunday evening. Mandriva CEO will send us the draft of
79	its own announcement so that we can check we all agree on the content.
80
81	So now we have to work on the Mageia blog post which will be published
82	on monday morning:
83	https://pad.riseup.net/p/mdv-foundation
84
85
86	--
87	Anne
88	http://mageia.org